Are you Team Karen or Team Pam?
Thursday, November 16th, 2006 | 62 commentsNow that we are just hours away from the eagerly anticipated reunion of Jim and Pam on tonight’s supersized episode, The Merger, it’s time to pick sides:
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team pam.
& i think it’s awesome that john green, author of the awesome ‘Looking For Alaska’ is team pam. yay!
Long live team PAM!
I was on the fence, but the team Karen was pretty convincing so TEAM KAREN! and well, i’d feel bad for roy-though he can be a jerk, but did you see his sad puppy face in diwali? its just terrible :’(
Lazy Scranton, I have it on good authority that the Pam shirt orders are way ahead!
So are we going to get statistics about how many of each shirt are ordered? I’m guessing Team Pam will win, but would be interested to see how the “voting” goes.
Shannon, i agree with everything you’ve said about the Jim/Pam/Karen relationship. You have a great way of explaining your perspectives. I also think that Karen is like another Katy - there to try and dissolve his undeniable feelings for Pam - feelings that he thinks will never be used. Jim thinks that he’s holding out for something that’s just a step in the wrong direction. While Pam knows she loves Jim, she can’t take that final step to tell him because she’s scared and she has every right to be.
I also, however, think that Karen will prove to have a hidden trait that will just turn Jim away from her. I sure HOPE she does, anyway. But then again, it could turn into something much bigger… Jim almost marrying Karen and then dropping Karen for Pam at the last minute - sort of like how Pam dropped Roy. Only hopefully this time they would realize that both their intentions were coinciding and they wouldn’t make the mistake they’re making now…
I have to say that I see Karen as another Katy … only another someone for Jim to date to try to lessen what he feels for Pam. The only thing is that like Katy it just won’t work.
Go Team Pam!!!
OfficeAddict! How great that you see the P&P analogies! I have been dying to discuss this with someone.
Re Karen: I at first found her to be inoffensive, if more polished than Pam (those no-nonsense business suits)…but certainly she has no warmth. Her attraction to Jim has been obvious, and I used to think, one-sided. Now Jim may be there in body with Karen…but his soul is elsewhere. Chemistry between them - none whatsoever. There’s no warmth at all to the character of Karen, and her contempt for sweet Phyllis in unforgivable — really telling about the sort of person she is.
…so Karen is the “Miss Bingley” who yearns for the connection with Jim/Darcy for the wrong reasons! And is never really a contender for his feelings apart from her own delusions.
im really not gonna take sides in the team pam, team karen thing. i see no point. i think they’re both likable characters. i really don’t like it when people start bashing either one of them. why can’t we just like them both? the only reason i would choose a team would be because i still believe jim and pam are meant to be.
I don’t understand why so many people are starting to hate on Pam. I’ve become way too invested in the Jim/Pam storyline–abandoning that for Jim/Karen would take away so much of season two and Jim’s character.
Adriana - you took the words right out of my mouth. Whenever someone asks me about whether i’m team Pam or Karen i always say: Karen is merely the catalyst to Jim and Pam’s inevitable relationship. That’s my cold, analytical view of the whole love triangle (er, square b/c Roy’s still involved). So, yeah, i’m Team Pam.
rachel(2) - i love that you used a Pride and Prejudice explanation for Pam :) Comparing her to Jane was perfect! Just b/c she isn’t all over him doesn’t mean that she doesn’t like him. Jane was very modest in her flirting but she still loved Bingley more than anything. It’s like when a guy doesn’t think a girl cares for him only b/c they don’t flirt w/ him like all the other girls do, but the girl really does have feelings for him.
I think Pam’s come a loooong way though. She is definitely the Fancy New Beesly and i think Jim will see that. She’s become a little more secure and independent, and i think she’s great!
Team Pam.
Is there any need for an explaination?
‘ok I understand that Pam rejected Jim and she blew it blah blah blah…but everyone knows that Pam is afraid to take chances. Season three is where she’s finally starting to come out of her shell and be her own person, so maybe she’ll realize how dumb she was and try to win Jim back!!! I do like Karen though…it’s not her fault she got in the middle of JAM. She had no idea!! Bottom Line: Team Pam ATW!!!’
apparently dwigt put my thoughts down before i had a chance to. in the preview for tonight, pam runs at jim, says it’s good to see him, and asks him for coffee. she’s trying.
Meredith, about the phone call Pam made to her mom, I’ve almost convinced myself that when Pam says, “Yeah I think I am”, her mom was asking her if she loves Jim. Who knows, but that’s what I’ve convinced myself of.
Meredith,
Not to mention the fact that it’s fun to do, too! haha
Team Pam
It isn’t even a question. I like Karen though.
Team Pam.
I’m thinking now that Pam is less like Lizzie Bennet & more like Jane Bennet who didn’t wear her heart on her sleeve and thus Mr Bingley’s sisters were able to convince him that she wasn’t really in love with him. But she felt so deeply in reality.
Pam has some growing to do…I think Jenna has talked about this on her myspace site…Pam’s kind of unsure of herself and had been with Roy alone since high school. She’s feeling her way through and we hope will soon enough have the self-possession she needs to be an integral half of Jim/Pam. As I’ve said elsewhere, they are the people we identify with in this story…they are its heroes. We need them to be together!
Episodes through December have been filmed and that notwithstanding, it’s my feeling that Karen is a foil and is sort of there to test the Jim/Pam union.
May Pam prevail!
I guess it just seems obvious to me to assume that she is in love with Jim, when you’re right - she hasn’t made a public declaration of that fact to anyone - unless that phone call to her mother confirmed that she was indeed in love with Jim. We just don’t know what was said on her mom’s side of the convo… but great points!
And you’re right - i can’t believe i’m analyzing the emotions of a fictional character either!! I guess it fills the time so well, i can’t resist.
What I’m saying Meredith, is that she needs to own up to those feelings. I don’t mean that she doesn’t care about Jim, but she needs to face up to that and for someone who just got out of a bad long term relationship that’s a lot to face up to. Therefore Karen is the catalyst that she needs- otherwise she might be more likely to sit around waiting for Jim to make a move again.
I didn’t mean that there wasn’t plenty of evidence that she cares about Jim and misses him- but love is not something that she has admitted (possibly not even to herself) or is likely to admit without some sort of motivation.
I can’t believe I’m analizing the motives of fictional characters… haha