She Said, She Said

Since I’ve seen this pondered on other Office fansites, I thought it would be interesting to start our own OfficeTally discussion.

The question is: in the final minutes of Casino Night, what does Pam’s mom say on the phone?

1. Mom: ?
2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: ?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: ?
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: ?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: ?
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: ?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: ?
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: ?
16. Pam: I will.

What’s your take? Specifically, #11? I’ve read everything from “Are you in love with him?” to “Do you think you’re pregnant?”

43 comments

  1. ok…here’s my thoughts (/hopes)…

    1. Mom: Well…when did he say it.
    2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    3. Mom: And did you respond at all or…
    4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    5. Mom: Well, Pam, you should have at least…
    6. Pam: Yes, I know.
    7. Mom: Ok, well, do you have feelings…
    8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    9. Mom: Yeah, but you’ve said before… Isn’t he…
    10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    11. Mom: Pam, are you in love with Jim?
    12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    13. Mom: Pam.
    14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
    15. Mom: Ok, call…
    16. Pam: I will.

    but who knows…anyone else?

  2. 1. Mom: When did this happen?
    2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    3. Mom: Did you talk to him?
    4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    5. Mom: Pam, you’re engaged!
    6. Pam: Yes, I know.
    7. Mom: Do you have feelings for Jim?
    8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    9. Mom: He seems like a wonderful guy.
    10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    11. Mom: Then maybe you’re in love with him?
    12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    13. Mom: What are you going to do?
    14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
    15. Mom: Call me later.
    16. Pam: I will.

  3. tanster. ah, so close. but, with my new super-dooper hi-def, i was able to transcribe the actual comments.

    Mom: What do you mean low cut? How low cut?
    Pam: Just a little cleavage mom. It’s no big deal.
    Mom: Pam, how many times have…
    Pam: Mom, Jim said he was in love with me.
    Mom: See?! When did this happen?
    Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    Mom: What did you say? Did you talk to him?
    Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    Mom: You’re going to have to sweetie.
    Pam: Yes, I know.
    Mom: Well, what are you going to say?
    Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    Mom: But you love Roy, right?
    Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    Mom: Are you having second thoughts?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    Mom: Oh, sweetie…
    Pam: Um, I have to go.
    Mom: Call me back, ok?
    Pam: I will.

    pam’s lackluster praise of roy is where her mom first realizes this may be a big deal.

    you know, people ask me how it is i write women so well….

  4. Mom: When did this happen?
    . Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    Mom: What did you say, I mean did you tell him….
    Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    Mom: Wow…
    Pam: Yes, I know.
    Mom: Well, have ever had feelings for him?
    Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    Mom: From what you tell me about him he sounds like a good guy
    Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    Mom: Tell me the truth…. Do you think you may be in love with him?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    Mom: Pam..
    Pam: Um, I have to go.
    Mom: Call later.
    Pam: I will.

  5. When Pam says “he’s great,” her voice noticeably loses the emotion she displayed in her previous declaration of “um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.” That’s why I think “he’s great” is about Roy, not Jim. I like ferd farkel’s transcript because it incorporates my theory (I’m very egotistical) and has Pam confessing to her feelings for Jim without giving everything away. I also think “Are you having second thoughts?” flows more easily than “Do you love Jim?” from “But you love Roy, right?” Just my idea. I really do hope her Mom asked her if she loves Jim, but I’m still not convinced. All your transcripts were great, you guys.

  6. Ah yes, the final minutes of the season finale. Here’s how I think the conversation went:

    Mom: When was the last time nature called you?
    Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    Mom: Were you shocked that Jim was picking his nose? What did you say? Did you tell him that he’s disgusting?
    Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    Mom: Well you can’t beat around the bush for too long.
    Pam: Yes, I know.
    Mom: So you’re gonna confront him?
    Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    Mom: Besides his nasty habit, is he a good friend?
    Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    Mom: Are you gonna announce Jim’s secret of nose picking?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    Mom: Well you’re gonna have to do it in a nice way. Jim’s not gonna be happy if he finds out you’re betraying him
    Pam: Um, I have to go.
    Mom: Don’t wear anything that shows too much skin! And remember to drink lots of milk!
    Pam: I will.

  7. Okay, more seriously:

    Mom: When did he tell you?
    Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    Mom: Well? How did you respond?
    Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    Mom: You’re gonna have to say something to him. He’s heartbroken.
    Pam: Yes, I know.
    Mom: Do think he’s the one for you?
    Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    Mom: Is he a gentleman? Is he a good friend?
    Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    Mom: Are you in love with him?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    Mom: *Sighs* Honey, you’re gonna have to fix this. You’re gonna have to cancel the weddi-
    Pam: Um, I have to go.
    Mom: Well call me if you need any help.
    Pam: I will.

  8. “I knew it was only a matter of time before this turned into Mad Libs, Office Edition. ;)”

    Ha ha. I was just bored. It’s always fun to turn things around.

    “Nice first play, Kenneth.”

    Thanks.

  9. Ferd, you so funny. :)

    Yeah, I understand what you and Adriana are saying about “great” referring to Roy and not Jim. That makes total sense.

    I hereby redact my statement. ;)

  10. I knew it was only a matter of time before this turned into Mad Libs, Office Edition. ;)

    Nice first play, Kenneth.

  11. I’m very afraid that if the conversation with Pam’s mom is revealed next season we’ll all find out Mom
    says: “You have to tell Roy!” Pam: “Yeah, I think I do.” Or worse, Mom: “You have to end the friendship.” Pam: “Yeah, I think I do.”

    I just don’t think we’ll get our happy ending. This show is too reality-based, which is what we all love about it! I don’t think perfect love happens often in real life.

  12. Oops, I’m a dumbass, does she say “Yeah, I think I am.” or “Yeah, I think I do.” ???

    Forgive me.

  13. It seems a little far-fetched that Pam would go from barely being able to accept Jim’s feelings to recogizing not only that she has feelings for him too, but that she is actually in love with him. How could she go from “I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend” to “I think I am (in love with him)”? She’s obviously confused. I think “I think I am” is in response to “Are you having doubts” or even “Are you still in love with Roy.” Because even saying “I THINK I am” in response to the latter question is a pretty huge admission for someone a month away from their wedding date.

  14. You should make this into a poll, but just focus on the line, “yeah, I think I am.”

  15. Ellie,
    You made a very good point. I was thinking that too. Maybe that part of the conversation goes a little more like this:

    Mom: Are you gonna postpone the wedding?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.

  16. Whatever “I think I am” means, Pam’s voice indicates that it’s a worrying realization. She stutters a little, she’s reluctant to say it. That could mean she admitted that she loves Jim, likes Jim or simply has doubts about her upcoming wedding. The doubts angle makes the most sense because it’d be awkward for Pam’s mom to transition between asking her about Roy and busting out the momentous question “Are you in love with Jim?” Of course, that all depends on whether “Yeah, he’s great” is about Roy or Jim. (I still maintain that it’s about Roy because of the drop in her voice. She says “Yeah, he’s great” like it’s an obligation. It doesn’t sound heart felt at all. I compare it to when a friend asks you if you like her asshole boyfriend. “Um, yeah, he’s great.”)

  17. Also, I don’t think the pregnant hypothesis makes sense. Why would Pam’s mother ask her that question out of nowhere? Oh, so Jim told you he loves you. By the way, did Roy knock you up? I suppose Pam could have called her mother at some point earlier and said she might be, but then why would her mother ask again? I think it’s interesting, but unlikely, especially since she definitely kissed Jim back.

  18. When I was watching it and trying to figure out the conversation, I was sure that the question to Pam’s response of “Yeah, I think I am” had to do with Roy (e.g. Mom: Are you still in love with Roy?/Are you going to tell Roy, keep this from Roy, etc.) The resignation in Pam’s voice when she says “Yeah he’s great” is, in my opinion, realisation of how much she really likes Jim, not obligation towards Roy as someone else suggested.

    I think it is a response to a question about Roy because I think that we have caught the very beginning of the conversation. Pam phoned her mom, described the conversation with Jim, and then her mom asked when this happened (which would be my first, or one of my first questions). Then Pam’s next three responses would most likely be to questions about Jim (both beacuse we have what she actually said and can work backwards, and also questions about the situation that just occurred would be likely questions from her mom). It would be strange to have this conversation and not mention the fiancee at all, so either “Yeah, he’s great”, or “Yeah, I think I am”, in my opinion, must be a response to a question about Roy, and like I said, I read the emotion of “Yeah, he’s great” as realisation. If her mom did ask her something huge like “Are you going to call off the wedding/ Are you in love with more than one person/ Do you think you are in love with Jim now”, in my opinion, Pam’s simple response of “Yeah, I think I am” doesn’t seem to fit the situation or her character.

    I haven’t seen all the episodes, but I thought there was one I missed where Jim met Pam’s mom and they really got along. (Possibly the Valentine’s one? I missed that one I know). If this is true, than I see Pam’s mom as being supportive of Pam, suprised at the situation, standing up for Roy, but also allowing her to think of Jim as a possibility. I could be getting that confused with the BBC version, or making it up entirely, but if there is an episode like this, my vote is that the conversation went something like this:

    Pam: Mom, Jim just told me he’s in love with me.
    1. Mom: Wow. When?
    2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    3. Mom: What did you say? Did you say anything?
    4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    5. Mom: You are going to have to say something to him eventually you know.
    6. Pam: Yes, I know.
    7. Mom: Well, the question is, do you feel anything for him?
    8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
    9. Mom: But is it more than a friendship? I’ve seen how well you two get along. And he seemed like a really good guy when I met him.
    10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    11. Mom: Are you saying that you think you could see yourself with him instead of Roy?
    12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    13. Mom: Well, …
    14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
    15. Mom: Okay, well call back soon.
    16. Pam: I will.

    I have obsessed over this far to much, but clearly I am not the only one :).

  19. Ok, here’s what I think:

    Mom: When did this happen?
    Pam: About ten minutes ago.
    Mom: Did you talk to him about it?
    Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
    Mom: Honey, you’re getting married in a month.
    Pam: Yes, I know.
    Mom: Well…how do you feel about him?
    Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom. He’s my best friend.
    Mom: And then there’s Roy…
    Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
    Mom: But now you’re having doubts?
    Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
    Mom: Oh Pam…
    Pam: Um, I have to go.
    Mom: Make sure you call me later.
    Pam: I will.

    In my mind, “yeah, he’s great” just has to be about Roy. Her tone of voice changes completely on that line. It becomes sort of flat and mechanical–like she’s reciting something that she’s SUPPOSED to say. And I think that could prompt the “doubts” question b/c her mom would notice the lack of enthusiasm and infer that there may be some doubts there. Also, in Valentine’s Day, Pam’s mom never actually meets Jim. What could Pam’s mom really say about Jim that would prompt Pam to say “yeah, he’s great”?

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