She Said, She Said
Sunday, May 14th, 2006Since I’ve seen this pondered on other Office fansites, I thought it would be interesting to start our own OfficeTally discussion.
The question is: in the final minutes of Casino Night, what does Pam’s mom say on the phone?
1. Mom: ?
2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: ?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: ?
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: ?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: ?
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: ?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: ?
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: ?
16. Pam: I will.
What’s your take? Specifically, #11? I’ve read everything from “Are you in love with him?” to “Do you think you’re pregnant?”
I wonder if one of the cast & crew members actually was talking to her on the other end.
42 | PhillyJim Fri. Apr. 11, 2008 at 4:28pm1. Mom: What?! They re-aired the latest episode of battlestar galactica?! When?
2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Did you call me to remind me?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: That episode is freakin’ sweet!
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: Why did you invite Peter Parker over to watch it with you, but not me?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: That character with the purple thing coming out of his forehead is totally sweet!
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Are you going to watch it again right now?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: *No comment from mom here, but the show is starting*
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Call me when its over!
16. Pam: I will.
Rock on!
41 | Bill Blasphemy Wed. Jul. 11, 2007 at 5:16pm1. Mom: When did this happen?
40 | Sarah Mon. May. 7, 2007 at 1:18pm2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Well, did you tell him you feel the same?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: Well, you are supposed to get married to Roy in a few weeks.
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: What are you going to do? Do you want to be with Jim?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: He is really cute. And he seems nice.
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Are you in love with him?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: Well, you have to do what makes you happy.
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Call me back later.
16. Pam: I will.
1. Mom: What did he say? When did he say it.
39 | Btaylor Thu. Jan. 18, 2007 at 6:39pm2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: What did you say to him.
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: He loves you
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: What are you gonna do?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: Do you love him?
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Are you gonna marry Roy still?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: Well…..
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Call back later
16. Pam: I will
I know this is late, but I’ve pondering, and I seriously think #11 is “Well…are you still going to marry Roy?”
38 | Tail Sun. Dec. 31, 2006 at 9:36pmOkay, now that we have seen wut happens between Jim and Pam in the third season, has anyone thought about changing wut Mrs. Beesly says? I dont really see how it would make much difference, but I was just curious.
37 | Erin Thu. Oct. 5, 2006 at 4:31pm1. Mom: when was this?
36 | rachel Thu. Sep. 21, 2006 at 8:50pm2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: did you say anything?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: honey…you’re engaged to be married this june..
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: well…how do you feel about him?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: he is a really nice boy. i’ve always thought so.
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: ….are you in love with him, pam?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: well then..
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: okay? call me back soon!
16. Pam: I will.
As much as I would like to think the “Yeah, I think I am” is about Jim, I’m not so sure. Although, she was going to say something to Jim before he kissed her, so I wonder what that was going to be.
35 | Lauren Mon. Sep. 4, 2006 at 8:58amOkay, this is my take on it were Pam a little more outgoing, not so passive, her mom knew Jim better, Pam and her mom had conversations about Jim where Pam subconciously confesses stuff, this is not the very beginning of the conversation, etc.
1. Mom: He cried? Pam what did you say? When did this happen?
2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: What happened? Did you tell him?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: You really hurt him….
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: Pam, what about what you told me…….
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: He sounds like a nice guy.
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Are you going to tell him how you feel?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: Pam…
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Tell him!
16. Pam: I will.
Now, don’t get mad at me, I know its probably not very realistic, but….And the, “Mom: Tell him!”, “Pam: I will.” is kinda like Mrs. Beesly saying it, and without thought of what her mom just said, and just wanting to talk to Jim, she said “I will”. So it doesn’t mean that she will tell him, it just means that she wants to talk to Jim about something, and wants to get off the phone. What that something is though, I’ve lost sleep over that. I have a few possibilities, but they’re even more unrealistic than the conversation I just wrote, so….:)
34 | Erin Sun. Aug. 6, 2006 at 9:13amI loved doing “Mad Libs” as a kid and this sort of reminds me of that. Fun. :) I doubt the screenwriters will ever elaborate what she Really Says, they probably wanted to leave that up to everyone’s imagination (at least beyond what the episode guide summarizes).
My take’s fairly similar to others:
1. Mom: When did this happen?
33 | corporalgeo Mon. Jul. 24, 2006 at 6:37am2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Did you tell him how you feel about him?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: The wedding is soon.
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: How do you feel about John?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: Is it something more than that?
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Are you in love with him?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: ? [I'm not real sure her mom says anything here, maybe it's just Pam pausing a second?]
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Call me back later, dear!
16. Pam: I will.
1. Mom: When, Pam?
32 | teresa Sun. Jul. 16, 2006 at 7:10pm2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Did you tell him how you felt?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: But you have had feelings.
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: What are you going to do?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: And you really like him…
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: But are you in love with him?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: Okay,..
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Call me back.
16. Pam: I will.
I definitely don’t think that the “Yeah, I think I am” has the line “Are you going to tell Roy”, “Are you still in love with Roy”, or something like that.
Probably something involving Roy, but not like those lines, because of the tone she says it in. The emphasis is in the wrong place for her to be saying it in that context.
31 | Edie Wed. Jul. 12, 2006 at 12:07amI don’t think she says “Yeah, he’s great” about ROY, I think her voice drops because she is finally allowing herself to admit out loud how she feels about Jim. Before he said anything, it was too risky for her to admit it even to herself or her Mom that she is very close to. Pam is too passive to have made the first move or considered it out loud before, so this is a very big deal for her to speak about it. I think her voice drops like that partly in guilt and partly in relief that it is out in the open?
Pam and her Mom have talked about Jim before. Pam has said something along the lines of how much she likes him and Mom has read between the lines. Pam has resisted the idea that he loves her because he has never said anything or done anything to show it, (ha, ha, of course he has, but she won’t allow herself to see that). Mom has pointed out that he really can’t say anything since she is engaged. Mom has asked her if she thinks he would act differently if she were not engaged? I think that is what she wanted to ask him after the Dundies, and only then because she was drunk and less inhibited but when she saw the camera she couldn’t. And also Mom has asked her what she would do if Jim did confess that he loved her, would she still marry Roy? Mom has kind of been pushing her to consider not marrying Roy BUT as her Mom she is in a precarious position and when Pam seems to be taking the “safe route” with Roy since Jim hasn’t said anything, she resigns herself to that, doesn’t want to upset Pam. Her Mom knows denial when she sees it, but also doesn’t know Jim or see them together so she can’t say TOO much. Pam kind of knows Mom doesn’t want her to rush into marriage with Roy if she is at all unsure or could have a chance with Jim. So, then Pam calls and tells her what happened and Mom is really wanting to cut to the chase and see if Pam will reconsider Roy in light of all this.
Mom: When?
Pam: About 10 minutes ago.
Mom: Did you say anything to him?
Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
Mom: You were hoping he would finally say something.
Pam: Yes, I know.
Mom: What are you going to do?
Pam: I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
Mom: But you really like him?
Pam: Yeah, he’s great. (voice drops as she admits it because she feels so guilty saying it out loud.)
Mom: Are you in love with him?
Pam: Yeah, I think I am. I have to go.
Mom: Call me!
Pam: I will.
Another question, what is she going to say after “Listen, Jim…”
Alison
30 | JimPamFan Fri. Jun. 9, 2006 at 11:35amThere seems to be a lot of discussion over the “Yeah, he’s great.” line. Although i could see it being in response to a Roy question, i think differently. Although i havent seen Sexual Harrassment (Cant wait till Thursday!), from what i have heard of it, Pam’s mom seems very interested in Jim, and its obvious Pam has talked about him a lot. And as all we viewers know from watching Pam’s talking head segments, and just her being around Jim, her feelings for him are totally crystal clear. So i think it would be pretty easy for her mom to figure out that Pam likes him as more than just a friend. So…on to my point. When Pam and her mom are talking, i envision her mom as really getting into the idea and asking a LOT of Jim questions. So the “Yeah, he’s great.” is in response to her mom gushing about Jim, and Pam is kind of exasperated. This was what i thought the first time i watched it, and every time after. And im not going to try to count how many times that is. This is just my take on the matter though, and im tempted to think that whatever we-the-fans come up with, it’s going to be wrong. Those writers are mighty surprising.
29 | Mel Sat. May. 20, 2006 at 12:35pmOk… after watching this scene 20 times (God, am I turning into one of THOSE people? I do have a life…) here is my guess:
1. Mom: Oh my gosh, when?
28 | Kelsey Thu. May. 18, 2006 at 10:33am2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Did you have any idea? What did you say?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: Oh Pam, you’ll have to talk to him…
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: Do you think you might have feelings for Jim?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: You talk about him all the time…
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: Do you think you might be in love with him?
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: Oh honey…
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: Ok…call me back…
16. Pam: I will.
Hit submit too quick!
A few other points I wanted to make…if Pam’s mom knows that Pam loves Jim because she’s intuitive, that’s one thing. I find it hard to believe that Pam would talk to her mom about having feelings for Jim because a good mother couldn’t let her daughter marry a guy she’s admitted she’s not in love with. So I think Pam’s mom knows but Pam has never admitted it to her. And I also think that the change in her voice when she says “he’s great” is not that she’s talking about Roy but that as she’s saying it she realizes how great Jim is and that she’s about to marry someone else.
1. Mom: When did this happen?
2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: Did you say anything?
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: You’re supposed to be getting married in a month.
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: Do you have feelings for Jim?
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: You speak so highly of him
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great. (realizing she’s engaged)
11. Mom: Pam, are you having doubts? (noticing the change in tone)
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: ?
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: ?
16. Pam: I will.
NBC should hold a contest and whoever comes closest to getting Pam’s mom’s line right wins a trip to meet the cast and be an extra for an episode!!
27 | MileHighGirl Tue. May. 16, 2006 at 3:03pm“This is presuming Mom has already heard a lot about Jim, and has already pretty much figured her daughter out.”
Usually, who knows a daughter better than a mother? You might be able to fool everyone in the world but your mom will see right through you. From what I remember about the Sexual Harrasment episode, Pam’s mom was more interested in seeing who Jim was than talking to her future son-in-law. I think that was a little insight into Pam’s true feelings.
26 | MileHighGirl Tue. May. 16, 2006 at 2:49pmOkay, here’s what I’ve got so far. These aren’t very accurate at all. Had to use a stop watch. ^_^ I’m gonna analyze these later.
1. Mom: ?
25 | JOJOFACE Tue. May. 16, 2006 at 1:18pm2. Pam: About ten minutes ago.
3. Mom: ? (2.05s)
4. Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
5. Mom: ? (1.49s)
6. Pam: Yes, I know.
7. Mom: ? (2.10s)
8. Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom, he’s my best friend.
9. Mom: ? (3.11s)
10. Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
11. Mom: ? (3.09s)
12. Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
13. Mom: ? (2.41s)
14. Pam: Um, I have to go.
15. Mom: ? (0.52s)
16. Pam: I will.
Holy crap, Parker. Not only do we share the same name, but that totally makes sense… I’m gonna have to go back and watch the episode where Pam’s mom comes in and watch her body language and such. That’s quite a possibility… Hmm…
24 | JOJOFACE Tue. May. 16, 2006 at 11:31amThis is presuming Mom has already heard a lot about Jim, and has already pretty much figured her daughter out.
Mom: Finally! When did he tell you?
23 | parker Tue. May. 16, 2006 at 8:51amPam: About ten minutes ago.
Mom: Did you tell him you loved him too?
Pam: No, I didn’t know what to say.
Mom: What? You love him. You’ve gotta tell him.
Pam: Yes, I know.
Mom: Can you do it?
Pam: Um, I don’t know, Mom. He’s my best friend.
Mom: C’mon. I never liked Roy. And Jim…
Pam: Yeah, he’s great.
Mom: Honey, admit it. You’re in love with Jim.
Pam: Yeah, I think I am.
Mom: Well you’ve…
Pam: Um, I have to go.
Mom: Okay. Call me back.
Pam: I will.