Comments on: Tori’s Review: Goodbye, Toby

By: Andy's Blisties

Andy's Blisties — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:34:28 +0000

I really don’t want to Jim to propose. JAM is SO boring, and I was a huge fan of them until this season. why are they so unrealistically happy all the time? it would have been more interesting if they’d gotten together and seen they both have flaws and had a bit of difficulty making it work. now it’s just boring.

By: I Love Jim

I Love Jim — Tue, 20 May 2008 19:57:36 +0000

Did anyone else notice Stanley dancing to the music in the background at the party???? HILARIOUS. I forget who was talking on-camera..I’ll have to watch it again…but check it out.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:31:39 +0000

OK here’s my theory (and it’s a bit off the wall so stay with me). Pam will go to school for graphic design in New York over the summer and get a job at DMI Corporate doing what she loves, Jim will be offered Ryan’s job as Ryan “has his hands full”. Jim gladly accepts because he would be with Pam in New York… The spinoff now becomes JAM in the Corporate Office!

By: TobyFan

TobyFan — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:22:37 +0000

#43 – I think the idea of Toby taking Ryan’s job is fantastic – I’d love to see Michael’s reaction to that.

By: Tori Weber

Tori Weber — Tue, 20 May 2008 08:01:57 +0000

The only thing I can see being a problem for Jim and Pam is if Pam feels that Jim is putting off asking her to marry him. He says he wants to, but she spent 10 years of her life with a guy who talked about engagement and marriage but really dragged his feet. I could see Pam getting scared that it is happening again.

36 | KZA I totally think Holly looks like a sweet, lady baker version of Jan.

Thank you for all of the comments!

By: mL

mL — Tue, 20 May 2008 04:33:51 +0000

[from tanster: 200-word limit]

By: Mollie

Mollie — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:44:32 +0000

#34- Grace. She got in to the school, but she’s probably just taking one graphic design course on full time. If you only take one class that means you can get more hours per day. And also, remember it’s not a full training. Just one course. I’m going to do that in Stockholm this summer – journalism though

By: tuna tuna tuna

tuna tuna tuna — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:03:29 +0000

if you look at jim and pam throughout the whole episode the “tone” was very positive. the conversation in the break room showed a happy healthy couple. there was ONE moment where pam is sad because she thought jim would propose and then he didn’t. now we the audience know that she WANTS him to propose (something we didn’t know for sure before). i guess i am not an alarmist or something but that one moment doesn’t make me think, oh no, they are going to break up, the relationship is on the rocks etc…

By: director of marketing

director of marketing — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:07:55 +0000

34 | Grace

Yes; if it is just a school of design, then she isn’t getting a degree–something more like a certificate. With intense scheduling, you can definitely finish a certificate program in 3 months, one quarter. There are lots of intensive language programs at universities around the country like this now, where you can basically get a minor in a foreign language in one summer; actually, my husband is doing a GIS certificate this summer. Class from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. (with reasonable breaks, usually 3 or 4 hours to work in the lab in the afternoons) six days a week for two months. Not going to be much fun for me, but it’ll give him some career flexibility when he’s done, so it’s all good, right? *sigh* Anyway, the certificate program is worth 24 college credits, about the size of a college minor.

By: Long Tim

Long Tim — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:06:15 +0000

[from tanster: please proofread and re-post. thanks!]

By: Ignorant Slut

Ignorant Slut — Mon, 19 May 2008 15:44:42 +0000

Anybody think something should be read into the fact that Pam said she thought Toby was kind of cute? I’ve been watching season 3 episodes over the last few days, and she’s always nice to Toby. She’s not so nice that she wanted to date him more than she wanted to date Jim, but she is friendly to him.

So, in the wake of Jim’s foiled proposal, here’s what I think might happen: Pam will go to NYC without being engaged, DM will convince Toby to take Ryan’s higher-paying job in NYC (remember, Toby didn’t look too happy at his going-away party, so he might rather stay), and things will fizzle between Jim and Pam (at least for a little bit). That’s how I think season 5 will begin.

By: Like a carpenter who builds stairs

Like a carpenter who builds stairs — Mon, 19 May 2008 15:42:32 +0000

I think Amy Ryan is going to be a semi-regular. As to the commenter who wondered why she would be on a television show – she was on a television show for years. Rent The Wire. It’s fabulous (plus it will make you laugh really hard at Michael Scott’s synopsis of it in the episode a couple of weeks ago). The Office has a lot of movie stars on it these days anyway ;). I enjoyed this episode quite a bit – particularly the Kevin subplot.
As for PB&J – I think that she will meet someone in art school that she will NOT get together with but will make Jim have to step up his game. Jim still needs to figure out what he’s doing with his life. If they weren’t operating under the constraints of this show, those two characters would have moved to Philadelphia already. Good design schools for her and remember “Philly Jim”? He obviously has a picture of himself as a sportswriter in Philadelphia that he has never pursued. But we won’t see The Big Four leave the Office while it’s on the air. So that’ll have to happen in the series finale. :)

By: banned from Chili's

banned from Chili's — Mon, 19 May 2008 14:01:38 +0000

is phyllis depressed?

By: DwightsAwesome

DwightsAwesome — Mon, 19 May 2008 13:53:53 +0000

Great review. I think everyone here is anxious for September and the Spin-Off!

However, think about people; Dwight hooks up with Angela and Andy somehow finds out, leaving DM in humiliation.

There lies your Spin-Off, Andy, Andy, Andy.
It has already been stated that neither Pam (for that matter, Jim as well) or Michael will leave the show.

By: arc

arc — Mon, 19 May 2008 03:49:40 +0000

That’s true that Jim was a shoo-in for the NY job, but would it be so crazy for Karen to get it? I’m not sure how much of a grudge she still has against Jim, but she might keep some of the job-tension there if she is still mad. And we’ve already seen Jan and Ryan go crazy in that position…if Karen got up to NY and decided to go nuts, too, things could get even more interesting.

By: Alfredo'sPizza

Alfredo'sPizza — Mon, 19 May 2008 02:07:03 +0000

Tori, I mostly enjoy your insight as the sassy powerful woman you are but I gotta say I think you are missing it on this one. The writers are showing more depth and experience than most of the comments give them credit for.

By: Drew

Drew — Mon, 19 May 2008 00:55:31 +0000

Definitely the best episode of the season, and Steve Carell’s finest hour. I love that in only one episode, Amy Ryan’s character stole every fan’s heart as the woman who could truly complete Michael Scott.

Looking forward to season five, and super excited that for the first time in perhaps the entire show’s history, Michael Scott might just have a storyline more potent than Jim & Pam…

By: KZA

KZA — Mon, 19 May 2008 00:22:31 +0000

“Enter the softer, slightly saner version of Jan — Holly.”

Why is she a version of Jan? I don’t see how the two are alike at all?

By: george

george — Sun, 18 May 2008 22:52:22 +0000

Could it be Ryan who gets the spinoff? I think I could go for a rip-off of Prison Break :)

By: Grace

Grace — Sun, 18 May 2008 22:50:21 +0000

Can someone please explain to me what kind of design school is only 3 months long…?