Comments on: Tori’s Review: Women’s Appreciation

By: Realist

Realist — Wed, 09 May 2007 00:52:25 +0000

To address the comments of Kim and Rebecca, you both are failing to see what makes this show good in the first place: it’s no fantasy. Michael, as many fans will agree, has a somewhat distorted perception of reality and he doesn’t make the best decisions. His relationship with Jan just might depict so many REAL people out there, not necessarily those who watch the show, but it’s worth something. The truth is that these characters would not be portrayed for who they truly are if everything was made PG. If you can’t take this level of controvercy there are plenty of mildly amusing sitcoms elsewhere on television.

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Tue, 08 May 2007 17:54:08 +0000

I agree with Kim. This episode was gross. I couldn’t get through the whole thing. I’m SUPER disappointed.

By: Just Linda

Just Linda — Tue, 08 May 2007 06:25:55 +0000

Lovely and accurate review. You should write for other websites, too. ;)

By: Kim

Kim — Mon, 07 May 2007 21:05:12 +0000

I actually did not enjoy this episode. It did not have the same office humor that i have fallen in love with. I felt it to be embarassing and gross, and I have no idea how that stuff can be shown on television. I did not find it funny at all, just vulgar. I hope that the “normal” office humor comes back soon!

By: _bales

_bales — Mon, 07 May 2007 14:37:52 +0000

Re #30: I think Pam was genuinely trying to help Michael with his Jan issues, as best she could, based on her own experiences. Pam has always looked out for Michael, and I thought that was a really heartfelt moment in the foodcourt between the two of them. I think Karen was trying to help Michael too, based on her experiences with Jim. I mean, we all see life through the lenses of our own experiences. It’s just a bit sad that Michael’s relationship with Jan hit a little too close to home for both Pam and Karen.

By: Meredith

Meredith — Mon, 07 May 2007 13:30:06 +0000

I thought that another telling part of this episode was the difference in the advice that Pam and Karen gave to Michael…Pam told him that maybe he and Jan just weren’t meant to be together while Karen said that sometimes relationships have rough patches and you just have to work through them. I think that they are both referring to another relationship…Jim and Karen’s. And I think that Jim’s appreciation for Pam’s prank was definitely a good sign!

By: Lindsay

Lindsay — Mon, 07 May 2007 03:48:47 +0000

This episode was hilarious! Michael telling Toby to show his penis made me wet my pants! I think Pam needs to get on Jim soon! I hope the season finale is eventful!

By: grapesoda

grapesoda — Sun, 06 May 2007 22:15:55 +0000

Great review!

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. There were so many, many good lines. Is Michael prophetic? I hope so! I hope his wish of courage will bring out the full-blown FancyNewBeesly for all to see!

By: What's the dealio?

What's the dealio? — Sun, 06 May 2007 15:36:42 +0000

Beautiful review, Tori! Wow. That was…wow.

By: Tori Weber

Tori Weber — Sun, 06 May 2007 03:18:37 +0000

Thank you for all of the nice comments. I’m happy you enjoyed the review! I enjoy writing them.

By: Denise (ddker)

Denise (ddker) — Sun, 06 May 2007 02:57:12 +0000

I totally agree to Pam needing to listen to ‘Girlfriend’ over and over. If there’s karaoke at the beach party, maybe she should do that song….

By: moustaches are for pervs

moustaches are for pervs — Sun, 06 May 2007 00:38:30 +0000

Am I the only one who thinks that, despite a lack of face to face interaction, Jim and Pam have recently been “sort of” flirting through their pranks? I can’t help but notice that Jim pulled off the Jim/Dwight switch right in front of her. Also, Pam knew that her own stunt this week would be noticed. I think the pranks may help remind Jim of who he actually enjoys being with.
Also, is it possible that the guys in the office thought that Karen and Jim were just hooking up because the shamefully complete lack of anything remotely resembling emotional intimacy between the two of them. I mean, even when alone in a deserted elevator, they looked pretty damn frigid. Sorry Karen…You’re nice, but you’re messing with destiny and it’s simply gone far enough. The more she plays dumb about the whole situation, the less likeable she is. Besides, one day Jim will realize that you two are only together because you took advantage of him while he was drunk and will dump your creepy ass.

By: tanster

tanster — Sun, 06 May 2007 00:35:46 +0000

bales, you are completely right. No spoilerish Beach Games discussion on this post, folks; go here instead. Thanks for the reminder!

By: _bales

_bales — Sun, 06 May 2007 00:27:49 +0000

I was wondering whether it would be cool to request that folks refrain from describing the promo for the new episode in the comments thread? It’s just I think some might wish to remain spoiler-free and not know anything about it. So sorry for being anal, and many thanks!

By: Greg

Greg — Sat, 05 May 2007 21:16:24 +0000

I think this was the best review yet.

Saw what this episode was all about.

By: CFO (not my initials)

CFO (not my initials) — Sat, 05 May 2007 19:55:19 +0000

Am I the only one who loves Drew? He cracks me up! I think that the old, obnoxious Andy is gone (although probably not for good…) and that Drew is just getting to be really fun. I am going to enjoy watching him. Until he inevitably has a melt down and Andy returns. :)

By: James P. Albini

James P. Albini — Sat, 05 May 2007 19:27:33 +0000

Tori, great review. Like Pam-casso #15, I felt there was a little more to the scene of Jim trying to tell everyone that things between he and Karen were serious, but until I read your review, I couldn’t seem to put my finger on it. I decided to go back and re-watch the entire episode and pay close attention to the subtleties, especially in scenes involving Jim and/or Karen. Maybe I read too much into things, but I beleive that “Women’s Appreciaiton” did a lot more to shed some light on the condition of Jim and Karen relationship than it may appear at first glance.

I also especially loved your comment that “like most women, [Michael] wants someone who won’t make him wear a dress, or treat him like hooker. After reading this, I realized that this episode really depicted Jan as being in a sterotypical male role of the hormonally-charged sexual deviant deviant of the relationship, while Michael assumed the stereotypical female role of someone who simply wants to be loved and treated with respect (and also who wants to cuddle after sex).

By the way, I in no way intended any of the above-comments to sound sexist. Like I said, I simply thought it was funny how Michael and Jan seemed to be reversed with regard to their stereotypical gender roles, and that’s why the scenes when he was with his “girls” worked so well.

By: Megan

Megan — Sat, 05 May 2007 18:26:44 +0000

“I get the impression she is fed up watching Karen date her boyfriend… Next up: breaking up a relationship! It’s natural order.”

Hahahahahaha!!! That is the best line I’ve read about the office all freaking year!! Tori, you are fan-freakin-tastic.

By: Dilliyo of life

Dilliyo of life — Sat, 05 May 2007 17:52:27 +0000

I enjoy any time Pam reaches out to Michael. They have a sweet and completely demented relationship.

I feel the same way. Nice review.

By: Pam-casso

Pam-casso — Sat, 05 May 2007 17:19:43 +0000

I think this is one of Tori’s best episode reviews yet. Insightful and funny at the same time. Love the comment about Jim having a hard time convincing anyone that Karen is the right girl for him…I felt that there was something more in that scene but didn’t get what that was exactly until Tori pointed it out. Thanks!