Angela Kinsey and Ed Helms conference call

Angela: She’s very offended by the question.

Ed: Can I speculate on that question?

Angela: Yeah.

Ed: I think Angela’s childhood was probably pretty disturbing.

Angela: Yes, me too.

Ed: And so you like — you’ve just found a lot of coping mechanisms.

Angela: Totally. I think she detaches.

Ed: And you’re able to sleep through a hell of a lot.

Angela: Well okay. But I think that there are times when she’s — I think I’m — Jen Celotta, one of our writers, I think said it really best.

I was like look, I need a little bit of insight because what she’s doing in this situation is so foreign to how I — you know, I’m trying to find a way to make her human, you know.

And Jen was like I think Angela is in this situation that sometimes people get in where they kind of say yes to something and this snowball effect starts to happen, and they weren’t really prepared.

And they don’t know how to handle it, and then they just go through it with blinders on to the very end.

Ed: Yeah.

Angela: And so that made sense to me and I think that’s kind of how she is. I think she’s got these blinders on and it’s all going to work out. And I don’t want to — I don’t have to pick or decide, or choose, and it’s all going to be fine.

And — but I do think her family is pretty disturbing. I mean she doesn’t speak to her sister. We find out that she was in like little girl pageants.

Angela: So, you know, like there’s definitely some issues there.

Press: Ed — did your time on the Daily Show kind of help you be so fearless and always, you know, to be — to not care that you’re singing with your a capella group over the phone and things like that, or is that just kind of something you’ve always been comfortable with?

Ed: Well let me start by saying that I have prided myself on the lack of dignity that I have.

Ed: It’s one of my greatest traits is my lack of dignity. But I think it actually goes back a little further than the Daily Show. I — before that I trained and worked at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater in New York, and I did stand up for years in New York. And I…

Angela: Oh, you need to be fearless.

Ed: What’s that?

Angela: You have to be fearless to do stand up.

Ed: But the thing is you’re never fearless.

Angela: No, I know.

Ed: It’s like fear is such a huge part of it. It’s just a matter of like — of embracing the fear and sort of being drawn to it in a way. And there’s nothing more exhilarating than sort of like throwing your fear at — just throwing it out there.

And then the Daily Show, I think, was — it’s funny that you say it — that you used the word fearless because I was terrified every single segment on that show. It was very nerve-wracking.

That’s sort of what I was talking about before, like it’s just very taxing. But yeah, I just — I think there’s a certain — I just — I also love to break out in song in real life.

Angela: This is true.

Ed: And there’s nothing funnier to me than a really inappropriately timed Broadway number. So I sort of — I don’t know. I think it’s — fear is a big part of it and…

Angela: Pushing through it.

Ed: Yeah it is.

Ed: But also, kind of, there’s a — there’s almost like a little bit of an actor’s high, if you will, of like going…

Angela: That is true, Ed because sometimes I…

Ed: … just like really like leaping into the fear fire.

Angela: And you get a little bit like of this adrenalin rush. But I have to say it’s something that’s so adorable about Ed is that sometimes I’ll see him kind of in the moment improvising something for his character and getting cracked up.

It is so cute. It’s like — he’s like wait I got something, I got something. Oh this is funny. We all do it, too.


  1. They are such wonderful people! I love how careful they are with their characters, and how they try their best to give US the best, not just reading some lines. This is a wonderful, insightful interview, and makes me even more glad that Ed Helms joined the cast in Season 3, he fits in like…um….like a analogy to show how good he fits in.

  2. These two crack me up! I loved the story about Angela having to clean out the fridge! It’s amazing how situations from The Office, regardless of how bizarre and weird they are, have some real-life basis. As an almost-marketing-graduate, I’m excited (and scared) to get out there!

  3. This was so great! I love it when we get to hear about the actor’s perspectives on their own characters. Also I have a new favorite Ed Helms quote: “I have prided myself on the lack of dignity I have.” Awesome.

  4. The ‘altered states of mind’ comment just melted my brain! Thursday can’t come soon enough.

  5. “But he did it and by jobe, he is doing it.” TWSS!haha. awesome transcript! I love how dedicated Angela and Ed are to their characters. it really shows in their work on the show and how realistic and complex their characters are. also, I think it’s great how the writers take part in the action and go beyond just writing the scripts. it doesn’t sound like that happens all the time. The simple things in life are the best, and The Office is the best! thank you Angela and Ed! you guys are awesome!

  6. Thank you for this! Wonderful interview and very funny. These are the things I come to this site for and it delivers. :)

  7. I was so happy when Ed Helms joined the cast. Andy has become my favorite character, and I think Ed Helms has given a wonderful sort of endearing quality to Andy that really makes him three-dimensional. Although I knew it was love immediately after delivering the line “I’m really going to shoot you” in the Call of Duty sub plot. that game makes everyone angry, especially if a teammate decides to snipe in Carentan. i can only imagine what it did to andy. thanks for the transcript!

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